Tulpa.info - metaphysics

our "soulbond" doesn't like to call himself that due to the meta connotations

4:02 PM

he's just a (bi)tulpa

I'd encountered soulbonds initially as like characters from works of fiction that come to life in you. Some people view it as the actual character came from the universe of that work and have various sorts of explanations for how someone else might have the same character, like multiple universes. Others view it as psychological.

5:57 PM

So basically like the same way some people view tulpas as psychological or metaphysical

We're 100% psychological in terms of soulbonds

My tulpas are technically part soulbound part spirit guide, but I call them tulpas

2:11 PM

Considering they did help at least one person outside the system

I've been reading something interesting and I'm wondering if it has ever been discussed here or on the forums. I haven't seen anything about it on the forums A Witch's Guide to Faery Folk: Reclaiming Our Working Relationship with Invisible Helpers by Edain McCoy it basically just describes tulpas but calles them faeries not tulpas it is written by a practicing wiccan

1:06 AM

It has some exercises for interacting with and strengthening the bond as well as just information

1:07 AM

I didn't start reading it with my tulpas in mind at all but when it did it was like I was reading about them

sounds interesting. I might do sone research on it later :3

I theorize that Tulpas and the Metaphysical are both connected in some way. I mean, I have an Ex Girlfriend that was literally pushed against a wall. I don't mean she just leaned against a wall. She was laying down and just slid along the bed against the wall. No rolling or anything. It had to be done by what could either be a Guardian Angel or a very powerful Tulpa. Perhaps it's both? Perhaps by creating a Tulpa, someone is creating their own Guardian? If my Theory is correct, then a Soul's Energy could create a new Essence, complete with its own Personality and Knowledge. These could co-exist together possibly...

11:52 AM

I've got no proof of this, so I suppose it'll just be a theory.

I think anything is possible

11:08 PM

[Dashie] again, I want that ability

guys i wanna be a mage

@rosegarden33 Who doesnt want to be a mage

mages?

are tulpas in any way connected to metaphysics? Does anyone here have experience?

Tulpas are usually regarded as being the same kind of 'thing' as the host. But people who believe in meta think people have metaphysical aspects already @Deleted User

Ohh okay.

But when it comes to people who believe in metaphysical, each person has a different belief from the next. I don't think you'll find too much agreement on what tulpas are and can do (meta), just a bunch of different experiences, theories, and opinions

When you open your mind up to anything, then anything will start to happen

I’ve noticed that.

4:48 AM

I have a very strange past experience if anyone is interested in hearing about it

It’s pretty crazy

Sure!

I’ll tell in a moment, I need to drive real quick @Seras Lain

i forgot SNNSNSN sorry, i can tell now @Seras Lain

5:04 PM

So, when I was a child, I had many stuffed animals in which I considered to be "alive". I believed this so strongly that they became golem/tulpa/familiar spirit-like entities. I didn't have to try, all I had to do was simply believe in them strongly and take care of them and love them. They would move, whisper to me whether it be to my ear or through my mind. They would move SOMETIMES when I asked them to. They could also show me their 'universe'. it was crazy, and im trying to figure out how to do this again. I know they moved for real because I had a couple other witnesses at the time. @Seras Lain

Oh wow- That's impressive!!

Mine never moved, but I did "grant them souls" and held long conversations. Not at 5 or 6, but 10 and 11 was when they spoke to me the most. They watched my life through my eyes, and if I went to a movie, I would touch their glass eyes before going, so that they would be able to see the movie clearly. I remember overhearing a conversation once between three of them. (They certainly did have conversations not involving me, though I often joined as soon as I heard.) They were talking about the limitations of being in a stuffed animal. I didn't understand. At the end they told me that as kind spirits, they were there for me and their forms were actually their greatest asset. The Veleteen Rabbit has always been especially important to me. My stuffed animals firmly told me I was going to heaven and that in heaven, the material forms do not matter and existence is infinite. Because of the infinite amount of time spent with material forms unimportant, the finite time we spend in material forms (either as stuffed animals, or 11 year old children) is no curse, and is in fact a rare and memorable experience.

When I granted them souls, I breathed out 3 breaths, and to this day, if I throw out a stuffed animal, I have to breathe in 3 breaths. They have never fought it. I am always worried, and afterward, I mourn a little... but feel resolution. -J (edited)

However... I'm not inclined to view these experiences from a meta lense.

12:10 AM

But they are still vital to me.

Oh wow. That’s a very cool story @Deleted User

Ah! I may need some advice related to Metaphysics... S-so, I dated a very powerful Medium who has Tulpas (or some variation of them) that can quite easily interact with the world around them- Now, she's also a Psychopath and I had to break up with her. She hates me and blames everything on me (though, it's actually the other way around. I had to end the relationship because of her actions, some of which involved hurting me or otherwise taking advantage of me). She's even gone a bit wack-o and her Tulpas kinda wanna kill me- I'm still alive so there's no need for me to become paranoid, but... Still- Advice might be helpful-

Google how to use sage to bless your bedroom and evaluate getting a restraining order

Lucky for me she's already a two hour's drive away, but her Guardians/Tulpas have unlimited range- I imagine blessing my room would fix that though! (edited)

Unless she's actually demonstrated that her tulpa can turn on her Xbox, I wouldn't worry about it. Anyway, are you certain that she actually wants to kill you and isn't just using hyperbole

Well, she blames me for all her problems and her Guardians/Tulpas do too. Her Guardians/Tulpas are much more active with things. They've been able to physically push her around before. I don't think they'll try anything unless provoked though-

I don't think they will be able to physically push you around, as they do not live in your brain

2:24 PM

They may be more of a ‘familiar spirit’-like being rather than tulpae. They can move things around etc.

2:24 PM

If that's the case then I definitely wouldn't classify them as tolpa like

2:25 PM

Kind of a double-edged sword here

2:26 PM

If they are a spiritual entity you can at least put powdered brick dust across the floor at the door so they can't get in your house

2:26 PM

If it's really like a topa then they will still be able to walk through

She always described them as Guardians, protecting her to the best of their ability.

So they’re probably familiar spirits or something

So because their owner blames me for her problems, they're naturally inclined to hate me- And yeah sorta. They're apparently fragments of a much more powerful Guardian Angel.

2:27 PM

I'll keep protection strategies in mind. Thank you!

2:28 PM

Considering all their rage, I can probably assume some of those fragments will change in some way before attempting to do anything, so any sort of anti-demon stuff should work nicely!

2:28 PM

All I need now is a recipe for Holy Water-

The Catholics have it wrong, don't worry about holy water

Huh- Alrighty!

Brick dust is what you need

Is brick dust what the name implies?

Correct

2:31 PM

Although bear in mind if they are a plain old tulpa (meaning they lack spiritual abilities) then the brick dust won't help if they decide to (for example) do some possession and try to beat you up

2:32 PM

If they are a spiritual guardian or something the brick dust will work - they will not be able to cross a line of brick dust on the floor if they mean to harm you

I've got a combat-focused Tulpa to help if it turns out my Ex had Tulpas the entire time. As for the Brick Dust, I'll definitely keep some handy and set it up if I suspect things are going to go bad!

I’m extremely fascinated in the potential applications for compounding the subject of imposition with the hallucinogenic experience induced by anticholinergic toxidrome

Why that drug in particular,and why is this in #metaphysics ?

Idk about eating somebody's Parkinson's disease medication to hallucinate your tulpas, but salvia opened some doors for us there

3:08 PM

Although that's not really meta

hmm

not sure this is comes under meta or not ,but just wanting to experiment this There is phenomenon of unconsciously detecting if someone is gazing at you , its a ablity to evade detection while hunting or getting hunted lol. Anyways my question , since in essence it is detecting focused attention . then what happens when your tulpa stares at someone , Now here is the thing i want the host to not be directly focusing on the target. Such that no outward changes could be directly detected . When i tried to do this the problem i faced was my eyes unconsciously focuses whenever my tulpa does this . And the real problem is dont really have good target , while my dog just ignores me , and i cant confirm if the other targets are even sensetive enough to detect such gazes normally . So the next best thing to do is tasking my tulpa to detect such gazes in a crowded public spaces and see if we can correctly predict such sensation and if successful then finding out how does it actually work . (edited)

Scopaesthesia?

Is this the only meta channel or do I need a role?

5:35 PM

Anyway, I believe to have access to a shared metaphysical space that allows people interacting with each other IRL to experience shared extrasensory content and perceive things from external space as they appear in real time

5:35 PM

I’ve been meaning to do some heavy reading to support myself and amass techniques for actual access since we’ve been stumbling through the topic relatively blind, and making actual progress nonetheless (edited)

There was this one guy my host shared a class with who claimed to have magic abilities. I tried to mess with him in imposed space and I never could get his attention.

Let me check the rules quick so I know what I can discuss in here

5:39 PM

Ah, I should be fine in this instance. Specifically what I’ve been talking about is the hallucinatory content brought on by a dosage of Benadryl significant enough to induce trance and ones’ susceptibility to experiencing the externally perceived meta content of another within their own mindspace

5:40 PM

I’d like to experiment in founding research compounded with concepts like Imposition or possibly techniques related to Hypnosis or group meditation. As it so happens my IRL m8 is a tulpamancer and a spider summoner as well

That sounds pretty dangerous. Enough Benadryl can cause you to stop breathing.

Before I go any further in-depth I’d like to emphasize that this is my field of expertise and that I’m deeply knowledgeable on relevant chemistry and biology, and that I would never, under any circumstances advocate repeating any of my experiments

5:42 PM

It is quite dangerous, to the heart and kidneys specifically. It’s also terribly unhealthy for the brain. I’ve taken significant measure to protect myself from these damages and counteract any that may be done through experimentation.

5:43 PM

And still it’s more an act in sating curiosity than pursuing any sort of euphoria, most find the experience to be wholly uncomfortable.

The guy Ranger was talking about also did dangerous stuff- he regularly doesn't sleep until the weekends.

Aha yeah a vaguely similar state can be achieved through sleep deprivation, though markedly less intense in terms of interactive content

5:45 PM

But shadow people are known to appear, as well as quickly moving objects in the peripheral

5:46 PM

I’m gonna take a sec to get settled in before I go off on a rant about my blind exploits in alternative space and theories on potential psychonautic application

I know this is a stupid question, but do you mean the shadow people who steal people's bodies when they dream? I only know this because I played a game called "deep sleep"

5:50 PM

Sorry, I couldn't delete the duplicate message

Sounds very interesting actually but no

5:51 PM

Just people made from shadow who appear in your surroundings and often act as though they’re aware of your presence

5:52 PM

Mine often try to spook me by looking through my windows and ducking out of sight when spotted, or by lurking around corners/standing still in black areas

I was told some people hallucinate "rainbow people" while they are experiencing sleep paralysis. I was pretty disappointed not to have that experience.

Sleep paralysis can trigger similar hallucinations as well. I’ve experienced something similar, although it looked more like a rapid pulsating between black and white over a surface that doesn’t make sense than a rainbow. But also appeared quite like water refracting light through a digital screen.

It was pitch black when I was officially paralyzed that one time. Ever since, I sometimes would get a little bit paralyzed while I was still dreaming. If I focused on the paralysis, I would be greeted with a yellow green color and a loud buzzing sound.

Sleep paralysis actually interests me a lot tbh if you’d wanna DM me some of your experiences. I’ve been wanting to work more on induction techniques but a have a lot of trouble falling asleep on my own as is

I've only had uncontrolled hallucinations once, and I never saw any shadow people, but I did see a lot of cats

Yeah I get cats a ton

The buzzing sound arise due to the hypersensitivity of hearing increase when you fall asleep and since you are practically awake at that state you are hearing your own blood flow near the ears and the heartbeats pumping sounds also amplify by multiple times

6:19 PM

Sometimes made of shadow, sometimes I hallucinate my actual cat real as day and when I go to pick him up he vanishes in my hands

6:19 PM

Yeah I def get the odd amplification of sound too, it’s like the jumpscare fuel zone

All of my experiences with sleep paralysis were hypnopompic. Usually something in the dream triggers it and I sometimes become lucid. I recognize the feeling of being partially paralyzed in my dream.